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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: "New" Nikon 16-35 f4 VR & 24 f1.4 lenses comin Reply with quote

Apparently.
According to Nikon Rumours at least.

I wonder about the VR in wides (and super wides) - I never quite understood that but I'm sure there are folks that will appreciate it once it's released.

The 24mm is apparently a lens that was valued a great deal before it disappeared and still goes for quite a bit of money on the used market.

If it's "reasonably" priced (under $2000 or thereabouts) I may consider it.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the 14-24, and putting VR on a lens that wide is just silly. I don't see the point either.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Re: "New" Nikon 16-35 f4 VR & 24 f1.4 lenses c Reply with quote

Dave - i think the discontinued WA that you are thinking of is the scarce and very expensive 28/1.4 AFD. A 24/1.4 would be a different lens altogether and I'm betting it's a DX and not an FX Nikkor (if 24/1.4)

dcsang wrote:
Apparently.
According to Nikon Rumours at least.

I wonder about the VR in wides (and super wides) - I never quite understood that but I'm sure there are folks that will appreciate it once it's released.

The 24mm is apparently a lens that was valued a great deal before it disappeared and still goes for quite a bit of money on the used market.

If it's "reasonably" priced (under $2000 or thereabouts) I may consider it.

Cheers,
Dave
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be hoping for an FX and not a DX lens - I can hope can't I? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've with dave on this. i'm really hoping for a FX 24m 1.4, that thing on a d700 would just rock. Of course the old 28mm will too but unfortunately thats not in the budget.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: "New" Nikon 16-35 f4 VR & 24 f1.4 lenses c Reply with quote

Ken wrote:
Dave - i think the discontinued WA that you are thinking of is the scarce and very expensive 28/1.4 AFD. A 24/1.4 would be a different lens altogether and I'm betting it's a DX and not an FX Nikkor (if 24/1.4)


Ken, the 24/1.4 AF-S that is expected is very definitely expected to be a FX lens, and a fairly exotic one. Nikon's answer to the 24L.

Note Sony is expected to announce something similar as well, a Zeiss 'large aperture wide-angle'. They were showing mockups last year, but without details.

It's looking like primes are coming back with the major brands, but only as exotics.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i guess the 24mm 1.4 will equate to a 36 (close to standard 35mm) in a DX body. I can see that being popular for sure.

VR is popular right now, i guess Nikon thought they better be reactive?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better VR than no VR.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: "New" Nikon 16-35 f4 VR & 24 f1.4 lenses c Reply with quote

mawz wrote:
Ken, the 24/1.4 AF-S that is expected is very definitely expected to be a FX lens, and a fairly exotic one. Nikon's answer to the 24L.

Note Sony is expected to announce something similar as well, a Zeiss 'large aperture wide-angle'. They were showing mockups last year, but without details.

It's looking like primes are coming back with the major brands, but only as exotics.


I dig exotic stuff.

I think, even if it's, as someone has speculated, $2400 after taxes for that 24 f1.4, I think I may snag it - as long as it performs as I would expect it to.

I loved the 24L when I was shooting Canon - was really good for weddings on the 5D. Just wide enough without being too crazy Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: "New" Nikon 16-35 f4 VR & 24 f1.4 lenses c Reply with quote

when i first read 24mm f/1.4, i thought: "wow, sounds like a lens i'd be interested, i'm sure it will be expensive though so i'll start saving up now" ...

... and then i read ...

dcsang wrote:

..... even if it's, as someone has speculated, $2400 after taxes for that 24 f1.4 .....


... and realized i should have started saving up along time ago! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy (and several others) won't be too pleased if a Nikkor 24mm f/1.4 AF-S does materialize at around $2000. Wink

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160396255358
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lxdesign wrote:
I have the 14-24, and putting VR on a lens that wide is just silly. I don't see the point either.

IS on the Canon 24-105L @ the wide end is useful for hand-held landscapes @ dusk for me (full frame). I don't take my tripod on vacations, so IS comes in handy for sure. IS still gets you a couple of extra stops, wide angle or otherwise. Cheers.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nikon rumors says it is on for tonight. Nikkor AF-S 24 mm f/1.4 and Nikkor AF-S 16-35 mm f/4.0G ED VR to be announced. Nothing else is expected.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it's a done deal, both FX!

http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/08/af-s-nikkor-24mm-f1-4g-ed-af-s-nikkor-16-35mm-f4g-ed-vr-official.aspx
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 24 is going to cost a pretty penny...

24mm: http://www.nikon.ca/en/Product.aspx?m=14145

16-35: http://www.nikon.ca/en/Product.aspx?m=14357
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow - impressive, only downside is that the 24/1.4 is a G lens (no aperture ring).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

24 f/1.4 - i drool you.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang.. no pricing info as of yet - I do expect it to be in the $2000+ range but would be happy with $1500 Very Happy

(well not "happy" but at least it wouldn't be $2000+)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken, I agree, I bemoan the incompatibility with the great Nikon film bodies, but that seems to be the direction they're going...

24mm is unfortunately my favourite focal length... maybe I will switch Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dcsang wrote:
Dang.. no pricing info as of yet - I do expect it to be in the $2000+ range but would be happy with $1500 Very Happy

(well not "happy" but at least it wouldn't be $2000+)

Cheers,
Dave


check nikon.ca again and price is there:

24mm $2349.95
16-35mm $1399.95
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dcsang wrote:
Dang.. no pricing info as of yet - I do expect it to be in the $2000+ range but would be happy with $1500 Very Happy

(well not "happy" but at least it wouldn't be $2000+)

Cheers,
Dave


it says $2,349.95 on the website
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

etam wrote:

24mm $2349.95
16-35mm $1399.95

IMHO, the 16-35VR is over-priced by a mile. The 24/1.4G price is where I expected it to debut. It will come down in price to be somewhat in line with the Canon version.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real world samples and a write up...

http://www.bobkrist.com/blog/fast-wide-and-handsome/
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A modern, fast, wide prime from Nikon?!? I'm sure I'll wake up any minute now from this dream... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears I was checking the DPReview press releases which had no pricing info at the time...

Oh well.. $2400 isn't that bad is it? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dcsang wrote:
It appears I was checking the DPReview press releases which had no pricing info at the time...

Oh well.. $2400 isn't that bad is it? Very Happy

Dave


If you compare it to the 28 1.4 then it's a bargain...lol Glad I held out, 3k-5k for it was nuts!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SamObeid wrote:
If you compare it to the 28 1.4 then it's a bargain...lol Glad I held out, 3k-5k for it was nuts!


Now we wait for the "other" releases throughout this year and, perhaps, into next. 50mm f1.2 AF-S G and 35mm f1.4 AF-S G Very Happy

I can see myself drawing down a whack of $$$ this year on lenses.. c'est la vie Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SamObeid wrote:


If you compare it to the 28 1.4 then it's a bargain...lol Glad I held out, 3k-5k for it was nuts!


yeah, I wonder what's the market price of 28 1.4 now...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll definitely drop in price a bit. I think most people will go for the new lens for sure. The 28/1.4 will always be that niche lens that collectors will have though.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think $2399 is fair as the Canon one is around $2099. Nikon lenses are generally a little pricier, anyways.
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