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I will go to 8 cities on 5 continents to meet persons who can show what nobody has never seen. Hi, I am Michel Szulc Krzyzanowski, an artist photographer (www.szulc.info) making worldwide photoprojects published as photobooks. See for example www.themostbeautifulpeople.org
One of the 8 cities for the project "What the world has never seen" is Toronto! II am looking now for colleagues in Toronto who are socially very integrated and who can introduce me in social situations where I have a high chance of meeting persons who have a very interesting answer to the question of showing what nobody has ever seen before. This is an art-project and besides the photo book there will be exhibitions: it is non-commercial.
If you are interested to get involved in this exciting and unique project, contact me at info@szulc.info


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This is some great work!


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What has never been seen in Toronto?


Godzilla.

And we're thankful for that.


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Stanley Cup? LOL


interesting project though.


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an NFL football team?


That may occur in the future though.. if Mayor Rob/Doug Ford gets his/their way *smirk*

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Capture Toronto through the eyes of the blind. Now that`s a project!


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For the last two months we have been trying to link with all kinds of people in Toronto to see if they would like to get involved with the worldwide photo project "What the world has never seen". This has been a most astonishing experience. For this photo project and the ones before, like "The most beautiful people in the world" (www.themostbeautifulpeople.org) we have been working with people in many countries all over the world. Everywhere we were welcome and were able to meet most friendly, enthusiastic, positive people. Together making fabulous and succesfull photo books, publications and exhibitions. Toronto is an exception to the rule. Most people in Toronto that were approached, of the university, art schools, G44, radio and TV stations, journalists, art critics, etc didn't bother and even never replied. The same for this forum. Only one very kind person responded. Replies published here are almost all silly. No problem for us though. We have decided to take Toronto off the list of cities and is replaced by New York where already response is positive and constructive. Thanks to those of you though who were serious and open. But Toronto is not going to be represented...


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The AOV Awards!


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Michel Szulc Krzyzanowski wrote:
For the last two months we have been trying to link with all kinds of people in Toronto to see if they would like to get involved with the worldwide photo project "What the world has never seen". This has been a most astonishing experience. For this photo project and the ones before, like "The most beautiful people in the world" (www.themostbeautifulpeople.org) we have been working with people in many countries all over the world. Everywhere we were welcome and were able to meet most friendly, enthusiastic, positive people. Together making fabulous and succesfull photo books, publications and exhibitions. Toronto is an exception to the rule. Most people in Toronto that were approached, of the university, art schools, G44, radio and TV stations, journalists, art critics, etc didn't bother and even never replied. The same for this forum. Only one very kind person responded. Replies published here are almost all silly. No problem for us though. We have decided to take Toronto off the list of cities and is replaced by New York where already response is positive and constructive. Thanks to those of you though who were serious and open. But Toronto is not going to be represented...


Silly replies were directed to your silly question.

What has never been seen in Toronto? If its visible to human eye its seen. In case you meant what's not photographed in Toronto, even then the answer is if its visible it has been photographed.

I think your project is a waste of time but a good excuse to travel and play the fake photo artist.


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C'mon, case closed. He wanted something that hasn't been seen and got what nobody has ever seen - nothing


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C'mon, case closed. He wanted something that hasn't been seen and got what nobody has ever seen - nothing


I often see nothing and even sometimes take photographs of nothing, unfortunately I'm not very good at it and they turn out to be nothing special

What I don't understand is why he didn't just go to NY in the first place. A little bit of research would have told him Torontonians find it difficult to grasp the concept of art. :twisted:


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"We have decided to take Toronto off the list of cities and is replaced by New York"

Seriously?...NEW YORK wasn't on the list. No offence to Toronto but how was Toronto on the list and NOT New York....

Seems to me like you are just looking to use people's contacts and not their ideas or enthusiam which is why my gallery contacts stay hidden in my pocket!


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wow. that was classy.

what, are we supposed to feel chastised and beg to be re-included in this mega successful and artistic project now?


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represented in what? A look at the previous project, the "Most Beautiful People in the World" is just a collection of snapshots of people's homes. Not sure why you need special contacts just to take fragmented snapshots of places. You can get that in pretty much any city. Good luck, bud.


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I guess Michel Szulc Krzyzanowski will remain as something that has never been seen in Toronto.


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Nobody was able to step up to the plate adequately in the eyes of Mr. Krzyzanowski. Understandably so - his direction was vague and nebulous. The responses WERE silly (yet witty) and of no use to Mr. Krzyzanowski who may have been in an unhumorous mood when he read them.

Personally I couldn't think of anything. This is artsy fartsy conceptuaulization way beyond me. But I don't take it as a slight that he's decided to go places where there are more people that share/understand his 'vision'. Maybe NYC has more people that can conceptualise what he wants. I know I can't.

Remember - other photographers seeking collaboration with TPMG members may decide against it if they read this post.


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well, we are what we are (not just on TPMG)

should we want to "collaborate" with those who wouldn't collaborate with us?

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...and that was not an offer of collaboration.

He didn't say, join me in making this photo project about XX and in respect of this theme XX, etc. He didn't offer us to take photos or get published, or credited or anything.

He asked us to GIVE him our good contacts so HE could use them to promote/base his work and got huffy when we didn't give him our contacts, etc.

Imagine if say, someone here wanted to shoot fashion in LA. Post in an LA forum asking people to give them their best contacts for stylist, models, etc. and introduce them as well, all so they can help this person put together his or her project and then get all upset when they dont get nice (but in this case, accurate and witty) responses.

in fact, our responses would have led to one heck of an interesting photo project itself. Imagine taking photos of "godzilla" in TO, or an what an NFL team would look like here, or what a modern day Stanley Cup parade would look like in TO. Heck, what a great idea for a project out of the helpful members of the board!! I'm serious!


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I just felt the guy deserved to be given a bit of a break. It was conceptual art, not a request for commercial contacts.
I don't think he got all huffy. He matter-of-factly stated that responses from Torontonians were not satisfactory. He informed us T.O. was off the table so no need to contact him in case someone DID want to stepo to the plate with the name of a contact/friend with a great idea.
It was a simple friendly request to photographers for contacts or people who would meet with him about a conceptual artsy-fartsy project. He wasn't asking for commercial contacts just sending a feeler out for contacts who might be interested or actually have a concept that meets his project.
It was voluntary request for people who may be willing to meet/work with him. It was highly conceptual - maybe it wasn't your cup of tea. It was beyond my means to contribute but I don't look at it as if he was doing anything underhandedly or unethical. He was looking for people or perhaps friends of ours who may be interested in such a project. If I had friends that were interested in this type of conceptual art I would have let them know about it. Clearly it wasn't for most people. Surely he has a right to express his dismay after the litany of sarcastic remarks he received.
Personally I thought of a TPMG member named Holly who has done a conceptual project about people with (dis)abilities and wondered if somehow she could be a tie-in with that project. This is the type of thing he was looking for.
He's doing a project of international scope - I suspect our provincial concerns about not having an NFL franchise or being invaded by Godzilla didn't meet that vision.


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One should note that he posted it here on June 14 yet he says he has been trying for 2 months so TPMG looks to be a last ditch attempt at finding a network of contacts.

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"I am looking now for colleagues in Toronto who are socially very integrated and who can introduce me in social situations where I have a high chance of meeting persons who have a very interesting answer to the question of showing what nobody has ever seen before."


Does TPMG look like the right place to find this type of contacts? I don't even know what he means by "socially very well integrated" does he want to learn the secret handshake so he can be introduced to the top secret IT society of Toronto? Maybe it's a language or cultural barrier but after 2 months of trying he should of clued into the fact he needed to explained himself better, if he had maybe he would have gotten a better response from Torontonians.


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perhaps it is due to cultural difference, but when asking for favours, even if not commercial contacts, normally one would not expect derisive judgments even when responses are not favourable.

He could have easily phrased it as "due to lack of interest, I am moving my project somewhere else. Thanks to all who responded."

..even if he may not really think that way.

It's not as if he's a really close friend to many of us here; he basically signed up on the forum to put up his request.


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I just felt the guy deserved to be given a bit of a break. It was conceptual art, not a request for commercial contacts.
I don't think he got all huffy. He matter-of-factly stated that responses from Torontonians were not satisfactory. He informed us T.O. was off the table so no need to contact him in case someone DID want to stepo to the plate with the name of a contact/friend with a great idea.
It was a simple friendly request to photographers for contacts or people who would meet with him about a conceptual artsy-fartsy project. He wasn't asking for commercial contacts just sending a feeler out for contacts who might be interested or actually have a concept that meets his project.
It was voluntary request for people who may be willing to meet/work with him. It was highly conceptual - maybe it wasn't your cup of tea. It was beyond my means to contribute but I don't look at it as if he was doing anything underhandedly or unethical. He was looking for people or perhaps friends of ours who may be interested in such a project. If I had friends that were interested in this type of conceptual art I would have let them know about it. Clearly it wasn't for most people. Surely he has a right to express his dismay after the litany of sarcastic remarks he received.
Personally I thought of a TPMG member named Holly who has done a conceptual project about people with (dis)abilities and wondered if somehow she could be a tie-in with that project. This is the type of thing he was looking for.
He's doing a project of international scope - I suspect our provincial concerns about not having an NFL franchise or being invaded by Godzilla didn't meet that vision.


I agree.


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May be if he had linked to his article on the project we would have had some idea of what he was talking about. But instead he just dumped a nebulous request Personally I was moderately interested but couldn't figure out what he wanted to get from this posting to a photographic board.

http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?optio ... 6&Itemid=1


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I don't want to think that my silly Godzilla comment robbed Toronto from an opportunity to be part of a great artistic photography work, a work that hopefully would have superseded Vancouver and its cheesy Riot Kiss shot, but in retrospect I stand by Godzilla comment.

What is not seen in Toronto/anywhere is a pretty weak premise for a photography project. But to go and ask internet people for inspiration about the very project and then get all uptight when they're confused shows lack of experience and simple immaturity, not the qualities one wants in a great artist who's here to elevate Toronto photographically.

Ridicule is the best weapon in the face of idiocy otherwise we'd all go mad, at least that's what I think.


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maybe he wants to do this http://www.postsecret.com/ or maybe http://www.postcardsanonymous.com/gallery_secrets.html


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philmar wrote:
I just felt the guy deserved to be given a bit of a break. It was conceptual art, not a request for commercial contacts.
I don't think he got all huffy. He matter-of-factly stated that responses from Torontonians were not satisfactory. He informed us T.O. was off the table so no need to contact him in case someone DID want to stepo to the plate with the name of a contact/friend with a great idea.
It was a simple friendly request to photographers for contacts or people who would meet with him about a conceptual artsy-fartsy project. He wasn't asking for commercial contacts just sending a feeler out for contacts who might be interested or actually have a concept that meets his project.
It was voluntary request for people who may be willing to meet/work with him. It was highly conceptual - maybe it wasn't your cup of tea. It was beyond my means to contribute but I don't look at it as if he was doing anything underhandedly or unethical. He was looking for people or perhaps friends of ours who may be interested in such a project. If I had friends that were interested in this type of conceptual art I would have let them know about it. Clearly it wasn't for most people. Surely he has a right to express his dismay after the litany of sarcastic remarks he received.
Personally I thought of a TPMG member named Holly who has done a conceptual project about people with (dis)abilities and wondered if somehow she could be a tie-in with that project. This is the type of thing he was looking for.
He's doing a project of international scope - I suspect our provincial concerns about not having an NFL franchise or being invaded by Godzilla didn't meet that vision.


I agree with Phil as well. If it wasn't clear what he was looking for, perhaps it might have been more helpful to ask for clarification- and if it wasn't for the members, perhaps the best choice might have been to just ignore the request (or at least couch witty comments with a wish for good luck with the project). Why not be a bit wlecoming for fellow photographers - even ones we don't know?


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I agree with Phil as well. If it wasn't clear what he was looking for, perhaps it might have been more helpful to ask for clarification- and if it wasn't for the members, perhaps the best choice might have been to just ignore the request (or at least couch witty comments with a wish for good luck with the project). Why not be a bit wlecoming for fellow photographers - even ones we don't know?


The first 2 out 3 comments were complimentary the other 3 were neutral, what did you expect from potatoeye
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Stanley Cup? LOL
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