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Image is there a bunch of black dots all over her right arm (closest to the camera) ? If so . Why is that?


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I'm not seeing much..

only the highlights of her hair, the flash, and some outline of her left arm, right leg.

no dots over her right arm.

I think you may have set your gamma or brightness too high. I think you should export your file as sRGB, not nikonRGB. I am not an expert, but I suspect Firefox 3.5 colour management may not know how to handle nikonRGB.


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oh, by the way, I think you should observe the 1-post-per-week rule in this subforum. :)


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Im aware :D.. Im also not looking for critique just on my monitor I see wierd dots all over her arms and this is the most appropriate thread to post it under to see ..


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Mr.Walczak wrote:
Im aware :D.. Im also not looking for critique just on my monitor I see wierd dots all over her arms and this is the most appropriate thread to post it under to see ..


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I can't see ****.

(Moved to photog in general).


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thanks for moving it


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Well, if you enlarge the image you do see "black dots" but personally I think what you're seeing is her freckles!

Assuming she's a true redhead, chances are she has freckles...did you see her with the lights on, or do you do it in the dark?

Personally I love playing connect the dots! :P

Actually, I can see them on her left arm too, and her legs!


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Maybe my monitor is too dark but I can't see anything other than a turf of red hair and a flash pop.


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Carlton wrote:
Maybe my monitor is too dark but I can't see anything other than a turf of red hair and a flash pop.


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whoa! Did you see a marmoset in that image?

:) - just kidding!


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Is this like one of those magic eye puzzles?





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It's hard to tell but I think the black dots are from pixelation from underexposure in those areas. Personally, I like the photo but would push it even further - raise the black point until only the areas affected by the flash are visible and then punch up the vibrance of those highlighted areas.


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posterization:
- on the four corners
- on her shoes

other than that the image has lots of detail around and very suggestive shadows.

don't see anything in/around her arms.

a good print will show the above and reveal what others can't see.

love the concept - hate the glare (not the highlight!)


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Am I looking at a different image? How are you guys seeing all this detail?


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Carlton wrote:
Am I looking at a different image? How are you guys seeing all this detail?
I bumped up my brightness and adjusted the gamma. I saw a lot more detail including the model's shoes, the chair that she's on, the flash stand.....


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Carlton wrote:
Am I looking at a different image? How are you guys seeing all this detail?


a proper calibrated wide gamut monitor helps


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Gerardo wrote:
a proper calibrated wide gamut monitor helps


Humm, I'm running dual Dell 2407WFP displays at work. I'll check it out when i get home then...


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I'm just using an ordinary Dell laptop.


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*grabs popcorn and watches as this thread quickly becomes a dick length contest with monitor specs as proxy* :D


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me too. can barely see anything at all!


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james wrote:
great shot including those fantastic heels!

Mike?? i think you should observe the no idiot rule and keep your comments to yourself... for the rest, get your monitors calibrated, its the other 50% of this photography thing.


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Its crazy how it determines what you can see and what you cant on each monitor.. I went into apple today on a 27 inch and it was darker then my monitor .. I guess it depend on the monitor your on if the picture looks cool or not .. So complicated lol.. Awell I thoiught it was kind of a cool picture but wasnt sure about the black spots I saw but it depends on the monitor if you see them or not.. Makes sense about the underexposure though


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james wrote:
great shot including those fantastic heels!

Mike?? i think you should observe the no idiot rule and keep your comments to yourself... for the rest, get your monitors calibrated, its the other 50% of this photography thing.


yeah, ok, that was silly.

But seriously though, my monitor is calibrated, my white point is set to 80Cd/m2. I cannot make out any detail on the model, only the highlights at the fringes. The silhouette is not visible at all. This was on firefox 3.5/MacOS, with colour management turned on. I do notice that with MacOS Preview/PS CS4, the lighting level is raised, and I do see more of the silhouette, but no weird spotting.

Also, for those who can see the silhouette and other details, are your monitors also calibrated? What white point are people calibrating their monitors to?


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mike wrote:
Also, for those who can see the silhouette and other details, are your monitors also calibrated? What white point are people calibrating their monitors to?


I downloaded it and looked at it with picasa then I maxed out "add fill light".
Before doing that the histogram was all to the left. I don't understand how any monitor can show much detail with a photo with such a histogram.


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It's obvious people are taking this thread too far, or making something of it it wasn't meant to be.

The OP asked if we could see "a bunch of black dots all over her right arm"...I stated I could, and that (further down) I was using an ordinary Dell laptop (although it's calibrated with a Spyder2PRO for a specific projector, the laptop display itself isn't calibrated).

While many here is a specific audience (photographers with calibrated monitors), not everyone looking at this image will have a calibrated monitor...not everyone looking will have a decent monitor...not everyone will even be using an LCD monitor! The fact of the matter is I *could* see the dots the OP was asking about on my laptop. Why attack people for responding about this, and what does responding to the OP have to do with using a measuring stick?


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I think there must be some auto-correction going on with the monitors that show the details.

The Op also asked why.

Has anyone else looked at the histogram of the photo?
I'm probably wrong but I think the dots are because the information is so scrunched to one side of the histogram. when you expand information any differences get magnified.


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To give an explanation, I'd want the Exif information first. You can have an image that's all "scrunched to one side of the histogram" and not have these problems. Also I'd want to see an unprocessed version (although it could be resized for internet viewing).


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well thats a lot of posts. Anyway no i can't see any odd dots. Lots of shadow detail thought. I do have a calibrated monitor


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I see very little. Looks like my sister. Well -before she went back to her natural hair color.


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