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For those that actually believe the Nikon rumors.... apparently there is a D7000 in the works. http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/23/niko ... successor/

We'll see.

I can never understand Nikon's naming convention.

Well it is a rumor ... so who even knows if it will actually be called a D7000

It all made sense up until they started manufacturing advanced amateur DSLR's - then the number system in the Nikon line-up was all over the place, I think the D50 was the first camera - then the D40, D40x, D70, D80, D90, D3000???? What -- when did we suddenly jump to the 1K range - why not call it the D30 - we don't have one of those!

So far as I can tell, look at the number of digits. It generalises most of the system: Dx > Dx00 > Dx0 > Dx000
ie 1 is better than 3 is better than 2 is better than 4.

yeah this is exactly kinda not making sense in the middle

That's my point. If 1 is better than 3 and 3 is better than 4 how is 3 better than 2?

Canon beats it in this regard

Dx0 is the older naming convention for prosumer camera being phased into Dxx00. So it's more like 1 > 3 > 2&4

I think Canon is none the better:
30D and D30? D60 and 60D?
Rebel ... X?, X?i, T?i which S is better than T, and T is better than X

You're not quite there yet, the point is to stick with the amount of digits in the naming

The D30-D60 is like over 10years old. The Rebel is a North American naming convention (guess its for marketing purposes) otherwise pretty straight forward.

Once D90 is phased out, then 1>3>4 How difficult is that

Having said that, really looking forward to next week Nikon announcement. If rumors prove to be true, a Nikon 4 digits prosumer camera (D7000) is closing in on the spec on a Canon 1 digit camera (7D)

Your logic does make some sense, although they really went of the rails with the amateur bodies and numbering system:

The pro bodies for the most part have been single digit:

D1, D1x, D1h, D2x, D2h, D3, D3x, D3s

The Smaller pro bodes have been 3 digit mostly.

D100, D200, D300, D300s, D700

Then there are what are clasified as amateur or advanced DSLR:

D40, D40x, D50, D60, D70, D70s, D80, D90, D5000, D3000

And the weird thing about the amateur numbers is that they didn't follow an order like what I have listed above.... the real order I think is:


D70, D40, D80, D40x, D90, D60, D5000, D3000

and what's up with those letters x/h/s?

Well.... the X designation is supposed to mean that the camera is designed for studio applications, and they generally have less dynamic range.

The "H" designation was originally used to indicate that the camera was designed for sports and photojournalism applications.

The "S" is confusing - but generally its an upgrade of a previous similar body -- for example D70, D70s had improved colour, low light handling, and a few other things.

D3, D3s improved resolution and low light capabilities

That is why everone is waiting for some reason for a D700s or D700x to come out - because for some reason they are waiting for Nikon to improve an already awesome camera -- I don't really understand why, as I have no plans to replace my D700 in the immediate future.

The only thing that would entice me to switch bodies is if they brought out a camera with built in HDR that was as good as using Photomatix processing.

You're right about looking at the number of digits... not in the model number, but in the price tag.

Even including the D30 and D60, Canon's naming scheme is fairly sensible... though the aforementioned North American naming for the Rebels does screw it up. In most of the rest of the world, they use 400D etc for those bodies.

Actually, Wikipedia has a pretty good timeline for the bodies across the major brands. Note the timelines are on most/all of the camera system pages, but I'm liking to the specific templates for our purposes.

Canon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:C ... lm_cameras
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:C ... LR_cameras

Nikon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:N ... LR_cameras

Minolta/Sony:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:K ... LR_cameras

Olympus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:O ... LR_cameras

Pentax:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:P ... LR_cameras

As far as the Minolta/Sony numbering scheme goes, always look at the first digit for a hint as to the "level", with the a100 arguably being the only exception (technically it was a glorified Maxxum 5D with a higher MP sensor).

The D3100 has it.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1008/10081 ... nd3100.asp

Interesting spec's -- now if they came out with a similar camera in the body of a D300/700 with FX... then we're talking!

How does this match-up against the Canon lineup? I'm guessing 7D territory based on the price.

Any thoughts about upgrading D200 to D7K? Looks quite tempting.

The D7000 is not a pro body however -- even though the spec's are impressive -- the body is more similar to the D70/D80/D90 line of camera's.

From DP Review: "...but additionally, because the D7000 has an Ai indexing tab on its lens mount, up to 9 'non-CPU' lenses can also be registered with the camera."

Viewfinder is comparable to the D300s, so in my opinion, this camera might be the one for those who want a d200+.

Road Test

http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2010/09/nikon-d7000/

There are a few things in D7K which make it quite appealing to me (D200):
- higher ISO could be actually used (that's probably the biggest beef I have with D200)
- movie. Now I have to ask my wife for her P&S, and it always awkward to switch between the two
- higher res. It's nice, but wouldn't upgrade if it was only that
- sensor auto-cleaning is nice too

So far, the only real downsize I could think of - a smaller LCD screen (as the body is smaller too). Of course, it will also render useless all my CF cards.

I'd appreciate your opinions, and always willing to be educated.

bright_side, D7000 has high resolution 3" LCD screen compared to your D200's 2.5".

You will be missing some pro. body button, like AF-ON etc.. D7k got partial magnesium body too (not totally weather sealed then).

For video, I still want to know how fast is AF for D7000 and D3100. Or you will need to manual focus in video mode.

Also, not sure about AF speed difference.

D7k looks like a good buy for people who wants to upgrade from the D70 D200 Chase really did good to push the D7k to its limits

16.2 MP is a big step for Nikon, since all the others except the D3x max out at 12.3.

Hope to see some reviews from members here.

I scored a D7000 body only today!!

Vistek had 3 extra. They got more than their pre-orders so if anyone is looking, go immediately!

Trying it out now, but so far, the high ISO ROCKS!!!

chopper, how's AF in video? how does it compare to your previous body? fast AF speed according to review?

AF is fast fast for photos. High iso is amazing compared to my D80. I havent tried the video yet but will do so tomorrow!