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I'd love to know who the local shops are as I'd certainly like to buy from a Canadian retailer if possible. If that isn't going to happen, I'll give Adorama or B&H a try.


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The only time I shop at B&H or Adorama is when they have something I want that I can't get at the local shops.


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I'd love to know who the local shops are as I'd certainly like to buy from a Canadian retailer if possible. If that isn't going to happen, I'll give Adorama or B&H a try.


First, start at http://www.photoprice.ca. That would give you current prices from major Canadian and US retailers. Lately, for Nikon bodies and lenses, Canadian retailers are significantly cheaper. (Canon may be too, but I don't know.) Then, ask your favorite retailer to match the lowest price. If your favorite retailer gives you grief, maybe it's time to find a new favorite retailer.

FWIW, my favorite retailer is http://www.photocreative.com/ in Mississauga.


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In my experience, Canadian retailers only price match other Canadian retailers. Also, in order to get a price match, the item has to be in stock & available for immediate delivery. With the last lens that I bought I tried to get a better price by informing the sales person that the same lens at an American retailer was cheaper & asked if they could match it. I was told that they couldn't match it but that by buying locally I wouldn't have to pay shipping & that returns were easier too. He did however lower the price & gave me a better deal but this was for a used lens, not sure if he would have done the same for a new one.

I still don't understand how there can be huge price differences between American & Canadian retailers for the exact same items though. My camera batteries cost $80-$90 (not including taxes) here in Canada & the same one will cost me $58 including taxes, duty & shipping costs if I order it from B&H! That's a huge price difference!


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I asked a camera store to price match once and as soon as they saw the printout from B&H they said no way. Then they checked through their computer system and said they couldn't do it. Even the salesman admits that he buys from B&H sometimes. Its not just any American retailer, B&H just about beats everyone - huge volume discounts.


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Yankee Charles wrote:
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I'd love to know who the local shops are as I'd certainly like to buy from a Canadian retailer if possible. If that isn't going to happen, I'll give Adorama or B&H a try.



FWIW, my favorite retailer is http://www.photocreative.com/ in Mississauga.


Thanks for the reference to photocreative. I will try them out.

photoprice.ca has been helpful in the past to compare pricing from the U.S. and Canada.


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That's pretty crazy: I am shopping for the scanner and any canadian ones are at $249+tax, b&h has them at $211 all in


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I just bought my fisheye lens from B&H - the price difference between Henry's and it was only like $20 - so the savings was like $4 after tax and shipping. The only thing was that Henry's has to special order it in and B&H had it in stock - ill have my lens in a couple of days as opposed to a couple of weeks.


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I just bought my fisheye lens from B&H The only thing was that Henry's has to special order it in and B&H had it in stock - ill have my lens in a couple of days as opposed to a couple of weeks.


Just in time for Rattray Marsh. :D


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Looks like Epson is banned to be shipped to Canada from B&H


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Seems like Adorama has finally figured out the customs clearance and shipping option for Canada. Now similar to B&H showing the guaranteed total


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ShutterBiscuit wrote:
I still don't understand how there can be huge price differences between American & Canadian retailers for the exact same items though. My camera batteries cost $80-$90 (not including taxes) here in Canada & the same one will cost me $58 including taxes, duty & shipping costs if I order it from B&H! That's a huge price difference!


Costs are higher, so prices are higher. Often Canadian retailers have different supply chains with more middle men. For example in the US, the supply chain for Pelican cases goes like this

Pelican USA -> B&H -> You.

The supply chain in Canada goes like this

Pelican USA -> Pelican Canada (different company) -> Daymen -> Vistek -> You.

Each person has their markup and cost of living in Canada is higher, so each person working in each step of the chain has to be paid more than their US counterparts.


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Exactly. This topic has been around here for a long time, and I like that it comes up because I want retailers who look in on us, and they do occasionally, to see we're not idiots and this won't work. An article from the Ivey Business Journal outlines how this works. For me, the onus of telling manufacturers that this supply chain is not tenable is shared between CDN retailers and shoppers. The shoppers tell manufacturers this by buying from merchants south of the border or insisting CDN retailers price match or they'll take their money elsewhere. South of the border again. CDN retailers have a responsibility by saying to suppliers their prices are not good enough and contacting manufacturers and even the government to come up with a rational solution to this. Preferably one that does not include prices being blocked on photo watch.ca. Every time one buys CDN they're supporting middle men of no use. But they're CDN so it must be ok...

We have to remember that B&H/Adorama/Amazon is not innocent in all this. They price some things so low that even other US retailers can not keep up. They do this with their buying power, loss leaders and other tactics, some of which can be grimier than the above - a bait and switch perhaps? Ever wait for stock from either of them on a really good deal only to be asked if you would prefer the more expensive item they do have in stock in the meantime? I haven't but I've seen a few stories like that on POTN. Manufacturers/some distributors are pressing for an enforced minimum retail price to combat this. Nikon started last year and the Gitzo/Manfrotto rep at the Vistek show last year said they're trying to as well. Unfortunately, I fear that if such a minimum price enforcement were to come into effect the CDN minimum would still be a fair chunk higher than the US middle for no good reason.


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NY taxes are better than ours. On that note, here's a post I wrote for the Canon Rumours forum that has some info some of you may find helpful regarding buying from the US in general. Before anyone asks when i am making my next run down I do not still have a box down there. Perhaps again soon though. Anyway, here's the post:

I realize this does not work for all Canadians BUT if you live near the border there is a workaround. Rent a US mailbox at somewhere like Mailboxes Etc. It costs about $100 a year. Now that you've done that you have an American mailing address. Guess what that makes you eligible for? An American credit card! Oh, and you also have an American address to claim warranty work too. Plus there are a lot of sellers on big forums like POTN that will only ship CONUS (lazy buggers), now you have a CONUS address. If you do enough shopping the mailbox can easily pay for itself. If I've bought something that I want to keep the packaging for, the retail box of a camera for example, I just fold it down and take it to the USPS and have the packaging shipped home. The gear is packed as if it's mine. Cause it is. Yeah the hassle of the drive blah blah blah-make a day of it. For example, I live about 45 minutes from the Buffalo/Niagara border. In an evening after work I can go down pick up my stuff at the mailbox and then hit the Anchor Bar for much better wings than I'm gonna get this side of the border and be home in bed by 9. Sometimes I'll hit the Galleria for some shoes and wear them back across with the old ones in the trunk. Shoes are WAY more in Canada than they are in the US. That's just one additional way of making the trip worthwhile with very little risk at the border, there are several more - many grocery items are cheaper (diapers) so pick up one or two things. When at the border and you're asked what you did - "took pics of the kids on the US side of the falls (thus the camera gear), had dinner at the Anchor Bar(wherever) and bought some diapers." They'll wave you through. Remember to fill the gas tank on the US side. Between the principle of being screwed around by retailers/manufacturers and their greedy distribution practices that I do not agree with, plus saving a considerable amount of money and making it an enjoyable day in grand ol' Buffalo it's well worth it to me. Don't give me any crap about supporting local retailers until I see evidence of them supporting me by fighting the price discrepancy across arbitrary lines.

That said, camera prices are getting better in Canada as retailers/distributors/manufacturers appear to be realizing people are wising up up here. Plus Sigma's Canada warranty is great and Gentec is a peach to deal with.


You could also try using this service as well. I personally go this route when buying stuff in the US - http://www.cbiusa.com/ All you do is use their shipping address provided when you check out and more than likely shipping is usually free. It's a short drive from once you cross the border in Niagara. Hope this helps!


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