Toronto Photography Meetup Group

I can never understand the rationale of spending lots on an expensive camera body and going cheap on lenses, especially in this digital age.
Lots of people getting Leica cameras just to participate in the Leica culture, but then they put cheap Japanese lenses on their Leica to take their Leica pictures. I don't quite see the point here.

Why not go the other way around, shoot with Leica glasses and use whatever body that captures light. That IMO produces pictures that are more Leica.

For me, I'd rather shoot with a Noctilux on my R-D1 than a CV on an M8/9,
I feel more Leica this way.

Sorry, I just have to make this post before my eBay M3 (the best Leica body in history) arrives at my door, along with a cheapo 50mm Elmar that costs fraction of the body.

There is no such thing as a 'Leica' picture

Leica glass makes some fantastic glass however, it's performance (however you want to measure it) is not proportional to the expense (not even close) vs. it's direct competitors (VC and Zeiss ZM m-mount and ltm lenses).

but that in on itself is a problem. what do you mean by it feels like leica. whether you have leica body/lens or others it is all the same in the end. it is a camera that takes pictures.

not even a fraction of people in this world would be able to distinguish a picture that was taken with brand A vs brand B. the fraction that does get it right are probably just lucky enough to guess.

don't pay attention to other's gear. whether they are using M9 with leica glass or using it as a pinhole camera, it really doesn't matter. only the pictures matter.

i would tell people to spend $$ on buying me beer. why rain on someone's parade. let them enjoy body or lens, or beer.

you can buy me beer at RFF thing!

I'll try to be there, but if it's too much of a snob group I'll head out early.

I can never understand the rationale of spending lots on an expensive camera body and going cheap on lenses, especially in this digital age.
Lots of people getting Leica cameras just to participate in the Leica culture, but then they put cheap Japanese lenses on their Leica to take their Leica pictures. I don't quite see the point here.

Why not go the other way around, shoot with Leica glasses and use whatever body that captures light. That IMO produces pictures that are more Leica.

For me, I'd rather shoot with a Noctilux on my R-D1 than a CV on an M8/9,
I feel more Leica this way.

Sorry, I just have to make this post before my eBay M3 (the best Leica body in history) arrives at my door, along with a cheapo 50mm Elmar that costs fraction of the body.

Any arsehole can drop a few grand on Leica lenses and bodies, take lousy pictures with auto white balance, vignette the shit out of them in PS, slap that crap on flickr, and call themselves a photog.

What's the point in criticising other's gear purchases? Either they shoot well or they don't. Spending more money doesn't make you a good photog, and complaining about other's purchases definitely doesn't. If you're worried about your bourgeois elitist cred, don't worry, it is solidly intact!!

No one likes a dilettante- maybe you should focus less on what others are doing and buying (and the origin of their purchases- have something against Japan?) and concentrate on your own issues. Insecurity is an ugly thing, and yours shows like a sore thumb.

I can never understand the rationale of spending lots on an expensive camera body and going cheap on lenses, especially in this digital age.
Lots of people getting Leica cameras just to participate in the Leica culture, but then they put cheap Japanese lenses on their Leica to take their Leica pictures. I don't quite see the point here.

Why not go the other way around, shoot with Leica glasses and use whatever body that captures light. That IMO produces pictures that are more Leica.

For me, I'd rather shoot with a Noctilux on my R-D1 than a CV on an M8/9,
I feel more Leica this way.

Sorry, I just have to make this post before my eBay M3 (the best Leica body in history) arrives at my door, along with a cheapo 50mm Elmar that costs fraction of the body.

I agree no less.
But when one wants to improve the pictures from the equipment end, I would usually say $$ first spent on glasses

Has anyone received their M9 yet? If so, can you please let me know where you ordered it?