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:D So today I was using my macbook pro and it was working wonderfully like always .. I close it (putting it to sleep) and goto open it an hour later and its off .. I try turning it back on .. Nothing ... The battery won't charge and it only works when plugged into the wall .. Anyone know possibly what the problem could be? I bought it brand new in November and this is really bumbing me out :( any help is greatly appreciated

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Hmmmm. Sounds like a battery issue. Warranty!?


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We've had hiccups similar to that with some of the MB Pros at work. Sometimes they won't power on even when the AC is plugged until after about 20mins of charging. I'd say leave it charging for a few hours and give it a try without AC power and see. If it fails, I'm sure Apple will cover it under warranty.

At least with the first gen unibody MBPs you could replace the battery on your own but with the new ones, you have to take it into Apple to do it for you.


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Take it to the Genuis Bar.
My late 2006 MacBook's MagSafe adapter melted off this April and they replaced it for free. And while I was there, I showed them some chipping at the edge of the body on the top bezel and they took it in and replaced the whole top which included the touch pad and keyboard all for free.
And I was out of warranty for 3+ years.

It may not be a recall, but if it is a defect, they will fix it for you so that hopefully you don't spread rumours about how crappy the Macbook Pros are :lol:


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Whoops, I should mention, this problem happened with fully drained batteries and needed approx 20min of charge time before they would power on.


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hopefully it will just be a battery issue which should be easy to fix. Especially if it runs fine plugged in still.


Aside from that, my advice is stop buying MAC! :D


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chopper wrote:
hopefully it will just be a battery issue which should be easy to fix. Especially if it runs fine plugged in still.


Aside from that, my advice is stop buying MAC! :D


Hehe.

One thing i really dislike about Macs is that they don't let you get inside them!


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hopefully it will just be a battery issue which should be easy to fix. Especially if it runs fine plugged in still.


Aside from that, my advice is stop buying MAC! :D


Hehe.

One thing i really dislike about Macs is that they don't let you get inside them!


Me too! I like to tinker and modify/improve things. Apple treats customers like mindless drones who shouldn't question their mighty glory and expensive products.


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What disturbs me about the inability to remove the battery is heat is a problem for laptop batteries which lowers their life expectancy. When my laptop is plugged in and the battery is fully charged I remove the battery to keep it away from the heat.


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Update* SO the battery was pooched Just out of nowhere died ... Apple store in Yorkdale was great I must say .. Took 15 minutes they swapped my battery and got me out of there without paying a dime ... Thanks for the help people!


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You freaked out for nothing. lol


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Hey I got some important stuff on here lol


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Hey I got some important stuff on here lol


Time for an external HD?


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Yeah I have one but didnt get to back up some of my last few shoots .. I bought another one today though just incase... The guy at genius bar was telling me about how hdds fail all the time its not if. It's a matter of when .. Needless to say I bought another


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Yeah I have one but didnt get to back up some of my last few shoots .. I bought another one today though just incase... The guy at genius bar was telling me about how hdds fail all the time its not if. It's a matter of when .. Needless to say I bought another


I have three myseif. Yes they will fail, hopefully not all at the same time.


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They normally all die after the 3+ year mark.
Both my Western Digitals died at the age of 4.
Seagates tend to pass the 5 year mark a little better from my experience.
I'd love to try a Hitachi or a Samsung next.


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Elisha wrote:
They normally all die after the 3+ year mark.
Both my Western Digitals died at the age of 4.
Seagates tend to pass the 5 year mark a little better from my experience.
I'd love to try a Hitachi or a Samsung next.


My experience is different, I haven't had a Seagate made after 1996 last more than 6 months (pre-96 Seagates are a different story, have several still running including one from 1987).

WD's, Maxtors and Samsung's all last, no experience with Hitachi.


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They normally all die after the 3+ year mark.
Both my Western Digitals died at the age of 4.
Seagates tend to pass the 5 year mark a little better from my experience.
I'd love to try a Hitachi or a Samsung next.


My experience is different, I haven't had a Seagate made after 1996 last more than 6 months (pre-96 Seagates are a different story, have several still running including one from 1987).

WD's, Maxtors and Samsung's all last, no experience with Hitachi.


Maxtor is seagate...


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s.poborsa wrote:
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Elisha wrote:
They normally all die after the 3+ year mark.
Both my Western Digitals died at the age of 4.
Seagates tend to pass the 5 year mark a little better from my experience.
I'd love to try a Hitachi or a Samsung next.


My experience is different, I haven't had a Seagate made after 1996 last more than 6 months (pre-96 Seagates are a different story, have several still running including one from 1987).

WD's, Maxtors and Samsung's all last, no experience with Hitachi.


Maxtor is seagate...


I'm aware Seagate bought them in 2006, which is why I buy WD now instead of Maxtor (which I switched to after they bought Quantum). Maxtor no longer sells bare drives, so if you find an actual Maxtor drive, it's not a Seagate (Maxtor is now just a brand of external storage products, not an actual HDD brand)


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Ahh I see... Interesting. Well in any case I have never had a problem with any of my seagate drives. By I do prefer my LaCie drives. They are built to last and well designed. Also they are hitachi drive on the inside which ate quite nice.


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We've bought a couple dozen Lacie external drives for work. They don't last very long either. Not sure if it is because most of the ones we bought don't have active cooling built into them or just crappy drives in them.


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My drive monitors used to show me the WDs running above 50C and my Seagates under 35C.
This is with to 80mm fans aimed at the drive cage.

My WD 250GB KS drive died on me last Saturday and I replaced it with an Intel 80GB SSD and damn that thing is fast!
Couldn't justify getting the 160GB :cry:


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We've bought a couple dozen Lacie external drives for work. They don't last very long either. Not sure if it is because most of the ones we bought don't have active cooling built into them or just crappy drives in them.


Strange... Which ones did you use? I use the Rugged Drives and I have had mine for over 2 years with no issues and I also have a few different desktop drives (Starck, Grand, and the black one by Neil Poulton) which are a year old with no issues. All running in hotter then average environments too, might I add.


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Same here -- I have been using a Neil Poultin 1TB drive from LaCie, and its been working just fine for me - and I have several other LaCie drives which are easily 3 years old, and I have never had an issue with them.


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Strange... Which ones did you use? I use the Rugged Drives and I have had mine for over 2 years with no issues and I also have a few different desktop drives (Starck, Grand, and the black one by Neil Poulton) which are a year old with no issues. All running in hotter then average environments too, might I add.


Some were the "Designed by Porsche" ones and the Quadra series. A few of them the drives were fine but the circuit board/controller died, others the drives died so we swapped parts since they were out of warranty. On the 1TB drive, they used 2x 500GB drives in the case instead of a single 1TB drive.


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the only problem I ever had was with the power supply going dead on me. My dealer replaced it within a couple of days, but otherwise all of my LaCie both Poulten And Porsche designed drives work great, and never had a single issue. Then again, I do not have them turned on every day either.


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Strange... Which ones did you use? I use the Rugged Drives and I have had mine for over 2 years with no issues and I also have a few different desktop drives (Starck, Grand, and the black one by Neil Poulton) which are a year old with no issues. All running in hotter then average environments too, might I add.


Some were the "Designed by Porsche" ones and the Quadra series. A few of them the drives were fine but the circuit board/controller died, others the drives died so we swapped parts since they were out of warranty. On the 1TB drive, they used 2x 500GB drives in the case instead of a single 1TB drive.


Owned two LaCie Porsche drives, both failed. Both had Seagate mechs in them and questionable cooling setups. (Passive cooling with a plastic case and light venting = death)

The high-end LaCie stuff with active cooling and/or heavy aluminum cases supposedly do better, but it'll be a long time before I buy any LaCie drives again (I also had one of their external DVD-R's die on me).

I don't actually have bad luck with drives. Every single failure I've had since 1996 has been a Seagate mech except for the DVD-R (and that's 1 optical drive failure out of probably 15 optical drives in that period, 4 HDD's out of 25+)


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It seems to be a surprise to everyone here, but for those who missed it: "Harddrives fail!"

Although many people seem to have different luck with different brands and types, the evidence here seems to point to the fact that there is no particular brand that is 'better' than any other overall.

Now that you Know that they fail, I'd recommend that you DO something about it before you entrust your critical and irreplaceable files to them.

There are lots of solutions out there to use such as RAID arrays or backups, and in my opinion anyone who doesn't take such actions and who is Surprised when they loose everything deserves what they get.

Harddrives fail! It's not a matter of IF, but WHEN, so plan for this from the beginning otherwise you are just playing Russian Roulette with your data.


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