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"There's WHAT on the Internet?!" :lol:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/45337223@N03/5028911854/" title="What you might find on the internet by Edhuang, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/5028911854_181ee5d3b4_z.jpg" width="419" height="640" alt="What you might find on the internet"></a>


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great shot Mr. Piranha. Is it a candid?


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I agree with Fionah. I think this is a great shot because there is a narrative being told here.


Please share what the narrative is. Do tell.

edit: I'm not sure if I'm getting the full post since work blocks random images (or certain image hosting sites). All I see is two women walking dogs that get tangled up.


Seriously? You need to be told? You know, people that need a narrative to be spelled out with images usually gravitate to comic books. :lol:
But if you insist. You don't see the potential for comedy? the walkers could get entangled themselves trying to untangle the leashes. You don't see the possibility that the dogs became entangled as a result of a romantic approach between dogs of different owners? it never occured to you that the narrative could contain violence/conflict as the dogs may be males soon to become aggressive in a clash of packs?
There is comedy, love and conflict. What more do you need in a narrative?


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great shot Mr. Piranha. Is it a candid?


100% real life situation


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great shot Mr. Piranha. Is it a candid?


100% real life situation


Did you speak to him before hand? I've read some people have issues with shooting homeless people on the streets and using them as subjects without their consent. Not as a legal issue, but that it might be taken as disrespectful by some. I never had the guts to even try.


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great shot Mr. Piranha. Is it a candid?


100% real life situation


Did you speak to him before hand? I've read some people have issues with shooting homeless people on the streets and using them as subjects without their consent. Not as a legal issue, but that it might be taken as disrespectful by some. I never had the guts to even try.


art has no boundaries, try it. I've shot homeless, been bashed for doing so by our members here. I guess not all photographers understand my art :D


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I don't want to get into a polemic about this.


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didn't take this but I've always thought we look like we belong in a fashion mag here:
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welcome to the club of homeless shooters, Katy :lol:


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i think this is like the only shot i have of a homeless person - i want to get more gutsy though.

sometimes people will offer something in return for taking a photograph it's not all whoring of another's misfortune.


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This is how you shoot Homeless people ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dejon/sets ... 494092303/

You get to know them .. Learn their story .. use that to your advantage to create amazing work ..


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Mr.Walczak wrote:
This is how you shoot Homeless people ...
You get to know them .. Learn their story .. use that to your advantage to create amazing work ..


Thanks for enlightening us, Tyler :!:


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FriendlyPiranha wrote:
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This is how you shoot Homeless people ...
You get to know them .. Learn their story .. use that to your advantage to create amazing work ..


Thanks for enlightening us, Tyler :!:


ditto.


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This is how you shoot Homeless people ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dejon/sets ... 494092303/

You get to know them .. Learn their story .. use that to your advantage to create amazing work ..

Thomas Hawk has a similar set on flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk ... 579131380/

There is some inspirational work in both of these sets.


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Mr.Walczak wrote:
This is how you shoot Homeless people ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dejon/sets ... 494092303/

You get to know them .. Learn their story .. use that to your advantage to create amazing work ..

Thomas Hawk has a similar set on flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk ... 579131380/

There is some inspirational work in both of these sets.


There is a 2 dollar portrait group

http://www.flickr.com/groups/2dollarportraits/pool/


Any way back on theme

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/metrix_feet/5034251725/" title="What The Boys Will Do To Impress The Girls by Metrix X, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5034251725_3329d1f08d_o.jpg" width="510" height="800" alt="What The Boys Will Do To Impress The Girls"></a>


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PotatoEYE wrote:
art has no boundaries, try it. I've shot homeless, been bashed for doing so by our members here. I guess not all photographers understand my art :D


Tattoo is art, Does it have no boundaries? can any tattoo artist use PotatoEYE's face as a canvas regardless of consent? Or are there indeed SOME boundaries to art?

Can any painter use PotatoEYE'S clothes as a canvas regardless of consent?

I still think homeless people should be afforded the right NOT to be photographed if they don't want to. Ethics should still play some part in photography, just like any other human behavior.

Maybe your view on art and it's boundaries would be different if it was YOU who were destitute, hungry and homeless and having your state of affairs captured for unknown reasons by someone with thousands of dollars invested in equipment.


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while art may not have imaginative boundaries, it does reach moral and legal boundaries.

Obviously, moral and ethical standards apply when shooting things of a sensitive nature, even if they are in the "public domain". I am sure most newspapers wouldn't print gruesome high-res photos of a car accident victim on the front page while the police were still trying to find the family to notify them etc.

On a legal front, i am sure a lot of people would agree that child porn crosses a "legal" boundary, regardless of art having no boundaries!


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well, you can be bound by the boundaries, I fail to see why I should if I don't believe in them


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well, you can be bound by the boundaries, I fail to see why I should if I don't believe in them


So then you are saying any tattoo artist who does not believe in these boundaries can use your face as his canvas against your will. I doubt you'd be happy with that.
Perhaps there are some boundaries.


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Fionah dear, I think we all got your point already.


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well, you can be bound by the boundaries, I fail to see why I should if I don't believe in them


So then you are saying any tattoo artist who does not believe in these boundaries can use your face as his canvas against your will. I doubt you'd be happy with that.
Perhaps there are some boundaries.


Of course there are boundaries. Ethics aside, at minimum there are legal boundaries.

Taking a picture of someone in a public place = legal. Tatooing someone against their will = not legal.


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